So I made the Mistake of Saying I Drive a Fiat on Another Forum.

"Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast." (twostrokesmoke) 10/29/2015 at 12:14 • Filed to: None

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And was pretty much attacked by everyone saying how crappy and unreliable they are (The old ones maybe, but I’ve yet to have a single problem with mine) and was told that they would rather die than drive one to which I replied “Knock yourself out, I won’t stop you.” (I know, I’m all heart)

Wow, overreact much?

Anyway, I just don’t get it? I mean, I know they aren’t to everyone’s taste, but god damn, man, get a life! People have different tastes!

I hate Ford Mavericks (They really are an abortion of design aesthetics. Don’t get me started) but I know some people like them. There are probably people that for some reason, like the Chevy Spark, and that’s okay, too. Misguided, but okay.... Why the hell would people go nuts over what other people like to drive? It’s blowing my mind......And on that note, I’m declaring any post I make today Fiat related......Fiat Friday can’t wait, today is Fiat Thursday, feel free to join me!

crowmolly > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:19

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Are the people old enough to remember FIAT in the 70’s and 80’s?

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:20

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I thought the current Fiats were decent in terms of reliability? In any case, I love the current 500 and the Abarth is really cool.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:23

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I will not defend a Spark. I will, however, defend an EV Spark.

HammerheadFistpunch > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:23

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“i would rather _____ than drive a _____” is code for “I have no interest in being a part of the larger car community, also I’m an ass.”

wiffleballtony > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:24

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This is all you need for that situation.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:24

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I don't know what the problem is. Id gladly drive a fiat.

wiffleballtony > crowmolly 10/29/2015 at 12:24

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And if so how did they manage to post on the Internet?

Echo51 > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:24

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This one is already broken

fhrblig > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:24

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Anything that went wrong with mine was related to tail lights and interior build quality. It never broke down.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 10/29/2015 at 12:25

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The EV Spark is really the only one that has my interest. I’ve got a “thing” for EVs i may go give one a test drive just to see how it stacks up against the Leaf, which I like quite a bit.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > gin-san - shitpost specialist 10/29/2015 at 12:26

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I’ve put 40k miles on mine without any problems, so I would say so far, pretty relaiable.

Funktheduck > crowmolly 10/29/2015 at 12:26

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Nope. They probably have parents that do though.

When I was a kid I hated Chevys because my parents almost always bought ford or the occasional Toyota. They didn’t hate Chevy but because our family friends only bought Chevys and they always seemed to be in some state of repair I just assumed they were bad and that’s why my parents didn’t buy them.

As an adult I don’t hate them, they just don’t make anything I’d want to own except the corvette.

fhrblig > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:27

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As I was writing my last comment, they are giving away a 500 Pop on the Price is Right. And the kid won it. Hope he can drive a stick.

yitznewton > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:27

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fhrblig > HammerheadFistpunch 10/29/2015 at 12:27

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Amen.

atrombs > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:27

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I have a soft spot in my heart for the Abarth 500s. There’s a few that I see around me and they sound awesome, and aren’t bad on the eyes either.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > crowmolly 10/29/2015 at 12:28

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Those I agree with. I also think part of the problem back then was that Fiat left, so replacement parts were hard to find, so people had to make due with what they could get and drove them without making the proper repairs. If you are old enough to have been around back then, you may remember cars needing a lot more to keep them rolling than they do now.

jariten1781 > gin-san - shitpost specialist 10/29/2015 at 12:29

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Nah, they’re bottom of the barrel for mass market brands (with Jeep barely better) on all the reliability surveys. That said, they’re infinitely more reliable than the best you could get a couple decades ago.

AndyG_UK > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:30

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According to Warranty Direct in the UK they are much more reliable than most things made by the Germans, plus when they do go wrong it’s for much cheaper and simpler things to fix. Plus Italian cars are cool (I am biased in this opinion though!)

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:30

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I think my ideal 500 would be white with the red mirror caps, but ideally no red stripe down the side (I don’t know if you can get the caps without the stripe and vice-versa) to keep it looking like a regular 500. The exhaust on those pretty much gives it away.

Also, the only problem I know I'd have with the early 500s is where the USB/aux is located - my understanding is that they put it in the glove compartment and if you try and close it, it can be hell on the cable. I think the new ones have put the ports in a more reasonable location.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:33

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I posted this reply earlier today:

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/simple-soul-ev…

Jonathan Harper > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:34

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I love the 500 Abarth, but it had a few little things I didn’t like so much.

PS9 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 10/29/2015 at 12:35

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Would you defend the Allspark?

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > PS9 10/29/2015 at 12:36

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I don't consider it worth my time.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > gin-san - shitpost specialist 10/29/2015 at 12:37

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Yeah, that’s the setup mine has, but the cable just looks sloppy, not really a problem though, and if you really feel strongly about it, you can get an $8 wireless bluetooth bridge. The new ones moved the port down near the shifter. It’s easier to access for sure, but I like to think that the car should be more about driving than having access to all the digital goodies.

PS9 > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:39

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Wastes of oxygen. No reason at all to interact with someone who would say something that dumb.

Close the door on that forum, lock it up, and throw the key over Niagara falls.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > PS9 10/29/2015 at 12:39

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Only if you promise me that you’ll get rid of Shaia Lebouffe...(or whatever his name is. can’t stand that guy.

PS9 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 10/29/2015 at 12:40

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You’d let megatron get it!?

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > wiffleballtony 10/29/2015 at 12:40

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If it allowed the .gif reply I would most certainly use it. I’m saving that though. It has infinite potential.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:41

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Oh it’s a fun driver’s car, for sure. Really, that USB/aux hookup is the one thing I need in a vehicle because I never use the radio or CD player and my music is 100% from Spotify these days.

PS9 > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:42

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Okay. I got the perfect replacement for him!

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > PS9 10/29/2015 at 12:42

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Who?

BeaterGT > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:43

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To be fair, I was at a Fiat dealership for all of 30 minutes and two customers approached me complaining about the reliability of their 500s. I was just there getting a damage estimate for my insurance!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > HammerheadFistpunch 10/29/2015 at 12:43

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There are issues with that argument.

I would rather (have sex) than drive a (car).

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > PS9 10/29/2015 at 12:44

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No, I'd hire a subtrade.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > gin-san - shitpost specialist 10/29/2015 at 12:44

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Yeah. I just hook up the cable to it and throw it in the glove box. it helps resist temptation to be on my phone while driving.

KnowsAboutCars > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:44

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Fiat Thursday!

PS9 > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:44

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Nevermind, it’s fixed now. Damnit kinja!

HammerheadFistpunch > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 10/29/2015 at 12:44

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its hard to do madlibs style subscript

I would rather ______ [negative thing] than drive a _______[make or model of car]

MultiplaOrgasms > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:47

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Oh hell yes.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > PS9 10/29/2015 at 12:49

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You are a sick man.

spanfucker retire bitch > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:51

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I’m not a fan of literally anything Fiat makes, but I won’t jump down your throat for driving one.

'Wägen, EPA LOL > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:51

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!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

Cé hé sin > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:52

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I drove a 500 for a week recently. It was fine, would drive again.

It had an automated manual gearbox which was fine too. Would drive again too.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > BeaterGT 10/29/2015 at 12:52

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Interesting, I wonder what the problem was...or..if they had the 500L which has the bad mojo of being built in the same factory as the despised Yuko of days gone past...... Maybe those had the automatic transmission. Mine is stick, the way God intended small Italian cars to be. Less stuff to break down.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > spanfucker retire bitch 10/29/2015 at 12:53

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Much appreciated. That’s the way normal people are... but this is the internet, normal rules don’t apply here.

Scott > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 12:54

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I’d even take point with the first part. So what if a car is unreliable. Some of my most memorable car I have owned have been the least reliable. I can understand not having an unreliable car as a DD that is your only car, especially if you have any kind of a commute. A good car and a reliable car are often not the same thing.

I was sort of hoping you where gonna say that the old Abarth was your Fiat that you owned. Slightly off topic but first time I encountered an old Abarth 500 was at the Nuerburgring at an Historic car race. I was watching the previous race from the back straight, it hade been a race of old Can Am cars. When the Fiats came by I was surprised, I was not even aware another race had started. I had to laugh watching the Fiat 500’s all down shifting on the straight after the NGK Schikane. Only time I have seen a race in which cars downshift on the straight after the corner.

jjhats > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:00

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Im impartial to fiats but I would never be able to expect any kind of reliability out of a FCA car nor would I try to defend it when others tell me how unreliable they are

crowmolly > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:02

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Yeah, my uncle and dad both had Fiats in the 70s and they really liked them but agree that the cars just didn’t hold up. Most other cars on the road didn’t need head re-torquing and were a bit more resistant to rust. Their cars both rusted away and I want to say were eventually recalled(?) but I don’t remember exactly.

LongbowMkII > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 10/29/2015 at 13:03

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Why are you here?

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > crowmolly 10/29/2015 at 13:05

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My brother has a 124 Spyder in the 80’s and I’m certain it spent more time in the yard being fixed than it did on the road. Not too much of a rust problem though, but we lived in the south and didn’t have to worry about road salt and that sort of thing. I have heard that the betas were recalled because of rust.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > jjhats 10/29/2015 at 13:08

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I can’t argue with that logic, but my experience with most American cars I’ve had put them in about the same category. My Japanese cars on the other hand would actually have to be destroyed before the engine stopped running on them. Brand doesn’t matter, (except for Mitsubishi, those suck)

jjhats > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:10

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maybe in general yea Japanese trumps American but within American FCA is bottom and gm/ford are higher:
http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/ca…

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > LongbowMkII 10/29/2015 at 13:15

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Ever read JG Ballard’s Crash?

Bytemite > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:17

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They are cute little cars. I would love to rent one for a day. But for the money, there are so many better cars I can buy. Maybe that is why some people get riled up? The Fiat is nice, but it is all show, no substance. You take away the cute body panels and interior and what you are left with is a cheap engine, cheap suspension, and mostly outdated, cheap parts in fwd.

Spoon II > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:18

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I actually love these things. I’m a big dude who loves tiny cars. It’s totally a thing, not just a Simpsons gag

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Bytemite 10/29/2015 at 13:19

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Fair enough, but, if you do rent one, get a manual. The auto is...lacking.

Svend > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:20

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I hear it all the time (even on here), ‘the Land Rover will just break down’, ‘it’s British so it’ll break’, etc... the vast majority have never set foot behind the wheel of a Landie, Rover, MG, Morgan, Jaguar, etc... and have heard it from somewhere else a few times and merely act as a parrot repeating it for some inane reason.

You enjoy your Fiat fella.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Svend 10/29/2015 at 13:23

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Yes. The lucas thing in Jags is true though. i’ve not owned one, but have friends that have. But at the same time, these were also older cars and one should expect that sort of thing with older...well, anything really. I have no idea how they faired when they were new.

M54B30 > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 13:40

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Fiat is literally THE worst ranked brand in terms of reliability. They’re not necessarily wrong

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > M54B30 10/29/2015 at 13:47

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Maybe I just got lucky with mine...anyway, it wasn’t about that though. It was people freaking out. Hell the topic of conversation was plastidipped wheels.

random001 > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 15:03

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Roll tide!!!

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > random001 10/29/2015 at 15:06

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Roll Tide! (Glad you got the reference)

pjhusa > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 17:54

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And that's why I stay on Oppo...

hike > M54B30 10/29/2015 at 19:19

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Wonder if Fiat will get any better once there is some reliability history on the 500X. I haven’t really seen any issues with that body yet (500X/Renegade). The 500L was a piece of crap, especially because of the transmission, so it really drags it down. The regular 500 really isn’t too bad reliability-wise.

hike > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 19:20

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Probably the transmission. The last couple years have sucked for transmissions at FCA. Getting better for ‘16 though!

M54B30 > hike 10/29/2015 at 19:59

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Hard to tell. The rest of FCA round out 5 of the bottom 7

hike > M54B30 10/29/2015 at 20:24

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The whole company is slowly improving. They had a new model blitz and now every new model year is spent improving the build quality. They finally updated the 9 speed for 2016 which should really help. Half the complaints were with the nine speed. What is surprising is the issues reported with the 8 speed, which is pretty much the Industry Standard for transmissions.

FlimFlamMan > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/29/2015 at 21:13

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A little ribbing is fine when it comes to cars. Being hateful garners no respect from me. Fiat’s are cute, but that doesn’t mean I think sissies drive them. Sissies drive Miata’s. I kid... I kid!

pip bip - choose Corrour > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 10/30/2015 at 06:35

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gib.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > pip bip - choose Corrour 11/02/2015 at 11:42

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gib?

pip bip - choose Corrour > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 11/02/2015 at 16:57

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polandball for give.